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Q & A: Karma contradictions: Karma result of Jiva's actions or Gods grace?
 
Which statement is true?

"Not a single leaf can be moved without God's grace/wish "

OR

"As you sow, so shall you reap "

OR

"ITS WE CREATING OUR KARMA, HOW WE CAN THROW IT ON ALMIGHTY"

OR

SHRI KRISHNA, TOLD IN GITA, THAT HE DON'T TAKE ANY PART IN CREATING OR DESTROYING PRARBDA OF HUMAN BEINGS.

Raghav J (Name changed), India

Interestingly, All the statements in the question are true. Yes, Absolutely every word is true! If you analyze correctly it will reveal.

These doubts occur to every "thinking" mind. [Mind is a monkey that raises doubts all the times Smiley Face and thus tries to pull the seeker away from the path of divine because it (mind) knows the seeker is seeking the ultimate destruction of it (mind.)]

The mind that can grasp the answers here will never have any questions about the "events" of life, or why something happens the way it does. You will realize - that the purpose of Karma is to perfectly follow the cosmic law (God’s system of Universal operations) and not to punish (or reward) individuals souls (Jiva)

I love technical analysis of the divinity as Sri Sathya Sai Baba says "You must seek the Truth and test it thoroughly with all the canons of reasoning."

1) "As you sow, so shall you reap"

- Yes, every karma is created by the "Jiva" (individual soul). Every Karma becomes a seed which fructifies in one of the future births and must be consumed by experiencing the consequences of the past Karma. This is called burning of the seed. Jiva creates millions of sees in each birth and each of them must be burned (consumed) before the liberation. Karma Yoga seeks to reduce the creation of the seed.

2) "SHRI KRISHNA, TOLD IN GITA, THAT HE DON'T TAKE ANY PART IN CREATING OR DESTROYING PRARBDA (fate or destiny created by the Karma from the past birth/s being delivered in this birth) OF HUMAN BEINGS"

- Yes, 100% true. Its Jiva that creates Karma and eventually destroys by consuming the seed (facing the consequences). God does not take any part in creation and destruction of Karma. God (Ordainer) only "ASSIGNS" the part of Karma that is to be consumed in this birth at the time of birth.

3) "Not a single leaf can be moved without God's grace/ wish"

Very True. Why? Because God (Ordainer) has already "ASSIGNED" the prabdha in this birth. There is not going to be a change in that (except for the seeker). Therefore it is what it is. Consuming the Karma is the only option before the Jiva.

4) ITS WE CREATING OUR KARMA, HOW WE CAN THROW IT ON ALMIGHTY

God neither punishes the wicked nor rewards the virtuous. It is their own karmas that bring reward and punishment. It is the law of action and reaction that brings the fruits.

God is not responsible for the karma. God is only responsible for seeing that what you sow, you reap. That's all.

No one should be blamed. "God does not make one suffer for no reason nor does He make one happy for no reason. God is fair and gives you exactly what you deserve." Karma is not punishment or retribution but simply an expression or consequence of natural acts.

Stupid are those that "Heavenize" or "Glorify" the sufferings of human life. God never seeks anything from us. He is Glory, he need not seek if from our sufferings. God is only responsible for seeing that what you sow, you reap. That's all.

Having said all this I must say that "God is biased towards the seeker" - Meaning the divine (sitting in our heart) DOES change the sequence, intensity and timing of the Karma Phala (consequences) in the life. So seeker is special for the God!! Read What is use of God who can't help? He must Help & Protect and How can God help if he cannot change Karma?

Everything about Law of Karma

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The above can be summarized as said by Shri Ramana Maharshi:

"The Wise, who knows that all worldly experiences are formed by Prarabdha alone (Prarabdha = destiny created by the Karma from the past birth/s being delivered in this birth) never worry about their life’s requirements. Know that all one’s requirements will be thrust upon one by Prarabdha, whether one wills them or not. According to the destiny [Prarabdha] of each person, the Ordainer, being in each place, makes them act. That which is never to happen will not happen, however much effort is made; that which is to happen will not stop, however much obstruction is made. This is certain. Hence, to remain silent is best. According to the Prarabdha [of the Jiva], the Supreme makes the Jiva act until it [the Prarabdha] comes to an end. Efforts made will be a failure due to Prarabdha; even [in spite of] obstructions, it [the Prarabdha] will bear fruit. [Therefore] to remain silent [without trying to oppose one’s Prarabdha] is best."

"Look! While God is bearing the responsibility of the whole world, it is a mockery for the false jiva to think that it shoulders these responsibilities. Whose fault is it if a passenger in a train, which is hauling a heavy load, suffers by keeping his luggage on his head instead of placing it on the rack?"

[Michael James: "Are there not among us some aspirants who, seeing the sufferings in this world, make efforts to reform it or even to heavenize it? But here Sri Bhagavan exposes the foolishness of such aspirants and advises them to surrender to God all their cares, both for themselves and for the world, and to remain quiet!"

Sadguru says "The concept of Karma isn't about God's doing, it is your own doing. This is a wonderful boon, because this means your life is your business and no one else's"

Swami Sivananda explains Karma as follows:

"What we earned in the previous life we bring to this life. And in this life we are earning more. If we have done a lot of bad actions before, and suffered the results, we learned, "Yes, I shouldn't be doing anything bad." Now you are a good person, but that doesn't mean that all of the bad things you did before are going to be forgotten. No. You have to answer for them. You are good now, you were bad before. So your sufferings are the result of your past bad actions. Your good actions will bring good results later on. But if you don't believe in that you say, "Oh, why is a good man suffering like this? Look at that bad man, he is enjoying life." He was good before, so he enjoys all that now. If he doesn't have time to face the results of his present actions in this very life itself, he will certainly face them in the next life. That is the theory of karma. No one can escape from that.

So God is not responsible for the karma. God is only responsible for seeing that what you sow, you reap. That's all. If you put your finger in the fire, it will burn you. The fire is not responsible for that. The function of fire is to burn. You can use the fire for a good purpose or for a bad purpose. It's up to you. So let us not blame God for everything. God is a neutral energy, like electricity. Plug in a lamp, you get light. Plug in your finger, you get a shock. You cannot label electricity as good or bad. You can use it for any purpose."

Sri Swami Satchidananda:

I read a beautiful piece of wisdom recently: "When God wants to punish you, He will give you everything that you ask for." He gives you what you want, even though it may not be good for you. Unfortunately, we still don't know what to want. We want many, many things; we want all the things that bring us problems. So we are the cause of our problems. When someone has a problem you say, "Ahh, he asked for it." We don't even know what to ask for. So the best prayer would be, "God, I don't know what to ask for. I may even ask for the wrong thing, I'm still a child. As a good father, good mother, You know what is beneficial for me. You give me what I need. Please don't give me what I want. I will accept whatever You give me. And I will accept what You take away from me. You are the giver, You are the taker" If you allow God to take things from you whenever He wants, you will never make a mistake in your life.

What is God's duty? To give the proper result for your action. That is nature's law Then why does God allow people who do good things to suffer and people who do bad things to get what they want? Those people are good now, but they were not good before. And the others once did something to deserve what they are getting now, even though it might have been long before. That is an important point that we miss in the West. We are slowly beginning to understand that, "Yes, we lived before and we will be still living after." There is life before birth, and life after death. The soul is immortal. It simply goes through different bodies to gain more experiences. You carry all your past actions and their results with you.

Thank you.
Mahendra Joshi

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