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Why is it that some Siddha Gurus seem to have had imperfect sexual and material conduct but are still able to give very powerful experiences? If a realized master is not a Kundalini Guru and does not give you any noticeable Shakti on initiation can he still help you on subtle levels?
Rocky (Name changed), USA |
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You asked: “Why is it that some Siddha Gurus seem to have had imperfect sexual and material conduct but are still able to give very powerful experiences?”
Technically anyone whose Kundalini has awakened can give Shaktipat to others. The difference with an able Siddha or Shaktipat Guru is that he can have direct control over the Kundalini in the Sadhak. Meaning a true Shaktipat Guru can moderate Kundalini in seeker (if ever it overflows.) In case of those Fake Shaktipat Gurus on internet, they just don’t have any control on your divine world in (subtle body.) They absolutely have no ability to cause spiritual progress within a Sadhak. But they can cause harm for sure.
If a Sadhak gets powerful Kriya experiences even with a master with “imperfect sexual and material conduct” then that is because of his own spiritual strength rather than the Guru’s grace. In this example consider the Guru as a simple match-box (weak Shakti), but if the Sadhak is a dry wood (higher spiritual level) he will still have powerful experiences of Shakti (the wood will catch fire), which he thinks he is getting because of grace of the Fake Guru (but that is not true).
But the fact remains: Fake Guru can harm the Spiritual and material world of the Sadhak. It is always good to not to have a Guru instead of having a bad one.
Here is what Swami Sivananda says about Guru: “Place your foot, step by step, very cautiously, on the different rungs of the ladder of yoga. Ascend very gradually to the summit. Be earnest in your Sadhana (practice). Equip yourself with the necessary qualifications. Do not waste your time in search of a preceptor. When you are ready, you will enter the halls of wisdom. And there, waiting on the threshold, you will find your preceptor (Guru)”
In your second email you asked: “If a realized master is not a Kundalini Guru and does not give you any noticeable Shakti on initiation can he still help you on subtle levels?”
Answer is Yes - every ABLE Guru (one who has attained Self-Realization and whose Guru has given him permission to initiate others) works at the subtle level. In fact that is where the spiritual development happens and that is where the Guru will continue to work (obviously with your help of virtuous behavior in the material life.) The fact is - finding a “True” Guru is a thing beyond human ability, simply because we do not have tools to judge the ability of a “True” Guru.
Experiencing (noticing) of a Shakti is mostly dependent on Seekers spiritual level. More advanced (spiritually pure) the Sadhak is the more experience he will have. Guru’s power also matters. Again, consider example of a match-box (weak Guru) trying to burn a wood. If the wood is wet (spiritually weak seeker) the wood will not catch fire. But if the Guru is like big inferno of fire (able Guru) it can even burn wet wood (spiritually weak seeker). In short it is always about the combined Shakti of Guru-and-seeker that helps the seeker progress fast.
Hope this helps.
Thank you.
Mahendra Joshi
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